New update: THIS IS JUST ANOTHER SCAM!!!
I've just joined Reindeer Surf (RDS) today. I like the site. It's fast and flawless. I like the color and the theme. More importantly this program is just taking off! Member growth is very good. Admins are responsive (yes, "admins", not only "admin", this program is maintained by several admins, not just one mysterious solitary admin).
Points that made me decided to join RDS are:
1. The site design is very good. It even has its own well-maintained forum. Meaning this program is serious. Not a short-time trap.
2. The feel when surfing is flawless. Adding my own sites is fast. Shows a very good and mature script in a well-maintained server.
3. Various withdrawal chances, depends on how big is your upgrade. For more than $100 you can withdraw 3 times in 30 days. More than $1000, 4 times. So if you feel insecure you can withdraw couple times in the beginning (thus reducing risk), then cash out normally later.
4. It has several admins, therefore the support will be pretty responsive.
5. It’s heavily promoted everywhere. This is good for program growth. Alexa web traffic proves this.
6. Currently fast payout (less than 24hr)
7. The X-mas theme imply that this program will run until the 12 days of X-mas holiday.
The program is still new. I strongly believe that join Reindeer Surf now is the right time. I can say chance to profit is more than 80%.
Join use my signout referral page here and I'll give you 70% referral commision back, right after I receive your referral commision from them.
Remember to check that the referral number is 523 in the sign out page. Give your upgrade detail to xqwats@gmail.com.
Wednesday, August 30, 2006
GAP: 45% of Pending Payout to Withdraw Your Money
Okay, I don't know this move is for prolonging the life of GAP or just to end it, right now. Judge it by yourself.
As long as it pays, should not be a problem. But I guess a lot of people will not be very happy.
As long as it pays, should not be a problem. But I guess a lot of people will not be very happy.
IMPORTANT CHANGE:
A lot of work AND thinking has been done this end.
I do hope that not many of you wish to see me dead [as in "dead person" who forgot to eat and sleep] nor dead GAP [as in the admin had no time left for business but to process payouts]. The following is to aide both to stay alive:
1. Effective immediately, in order to receive payouts, your remaining active upgrades will need to add up to AT LEAST 45% of your pending payout.
for example:
your pending payout is $378
your remaining upgrades will need to add up to AT LEAST $$170.10
2. 3rd upgrade option is added - to help you ease into the change and spread yourselves a little.
PLEASE NOTE: a "more-or-less" approach will be adopted for the next few payout runs (so if your remaining upgrades are around the 45% mark, you'll be fine). However, if you have been doing the $1 thing while awaiting a $1260 payout, you'll need to change your ways, I'm afraid.
We've got a good thing going here and I trust you realise this. I am a rather dedicated person and, like it or not, there must be something right I've been doing for the past few years to keep me still around and not burning of shame.
Kind regards to all
Trish
Tuesday, August 29, 2006
World Gold Price and Our e-Gold Account Balance
Some of you may be notice that your e-Gold US dollars balance is fluctuating from time to time. This is due to the fluctuation of the gold price in the world gold market.
So next time if you see that your balance is down sharply, before you think that a hacker may compromise your account, check at the current world gold price. Gold price may have a plunge at that time.
You can check current gold price from the real time graphic below. Refresh your browser if necessary for the latest update. You may bookmark this posting for an easy access next time you need it.
So next time if you see that your balance is down sharply, before you think that a hacker may compromise your account, check at the current world gold price. Gold price may have a plunge at that time.
You can check current gold price from the real time graphic below. Refresh your browser if necessary for the latest update. You may bookmark this posting for an easy access next time you need it.
The Importance of Not Being Lazy Every Time You Make an e-Gold Spend
This is a common happening in the HYIP world. It happens again and again, and the one who will suffer is us, the “investors”.
I’m talking about your beloved autosurf program’s e-Gold account number is “hacked”, therefore your hard earned invested money will not go to your autosurf admin e-Gold (and ready to be multiplied) but otherwise plunge into the “hacker’s” e-Gold account. Say goodbye to you.
Note that hacking attempt could be real or bogus, but the result is still the same, unwary investors will loose money.
So this is the first thing we must do every time we spend money to e-Gold: make 100% sure that we spend to the correct e-Gold number.
Don’t be lazy. Don’t let our fingers’ muscle twitch too fast, even if our brain is overwhelmed by irresistible impulsive “investing desire” to spend.
Tips:
1. If you yet have not invested in your new autosurf program, try to find the e-Gold number the admin usually state in the program. Every good admin always tell you their e-Gold number. So it must be somewhere in the web pages. Send email first if necessary.
2. If you have invested before in the program then check your e-Gold history and make note the admin e-Gold account number. Double check when you spend.
Step-by-step to spend money at e-Gold:
1. Make note what the e-Gold account number you want to spend.
2. At the spend page, stop, take your time to make sure the destination account is correct. Also make sure you that you land on the real “e-Gold” (look for the https and padlock icon)
3. Always capture or copy the payment confirmation after the spending. You may need it as a proof of purchase.
4. Check at the HYIP/autosurf program to see that your spend has been received.
GlobalAdsPro has just experienced their e-Gold account number been hacked. Fortunately, the window of hacking was only 20 minutes (10:40pm – 11:00pm), so the damage should be minimum, if any. We may say that we are lucky to we have Trish here. At other autosurf, the e-Gold account may be hacked or incorrect for a full day/night before the admin “catch” it.
Excerpt from GAP member news page:
PS: at the time of this posting the GAP growth is still impressive. I think it's still the best bet compared to other autosurf programs currently available. But, of course, it's a bet.
I’m talking about your beloved autosurf program’s e-Gold account number is “hacked”, therefore your hard earned invested money will not go to your autosurf admin e-Gold (and ready to be multiplied) but otherwise plunge into the “hacker’s” e-Gold account. Say goodbye to you.
Note that hacking attempt could be real or bogus, but the result is still the same, unwary investors will loose money.
So this is the first thing we must do every time we spend money to e-Gold: make 100% sure that we spend to the correct e-Gold number.
Don’t be lazy. Don’t let our fingers’ muscle twitch too fast, even if our brain is overwhelmed by irresistible impulsive “investing desire” to spend.
Tips:
1. If you yet have not invested in your new autosurf program, try to find the e-Gold number the admin usually state in the program. Every good admin always tell you their e-Gold number. So it must be somewhere in the web pages. Send email first if necessary.
2. If you have invested before in the program then check your e-Gold history and make note the admin e-Gold account number. Double check when you spend.
Step-by-step to spend money at e-Gold:
1. Make note what the e-Gold account number you want to spend.
2. At the spend page, stop, take your time to make sure the destination account is correct. Also make sure you that you land on the real “e-Gold” (look for the https and padlock icon)
3. Always capture or copy the payment confirmation after the spending. You may need it as a proof of purchase.
4. Check at the HYIP/autosurf program to see that your spend has been received.
GlobalAdsPro has just experienced their e-Gold account number been hacked. Fortunately, the window of hacking was only 20 minutes (10:40pm – 11:00pm), so the damage should be minimum, if any. We may say that we are lucky to we have Trish here. At other autosurf, the e-Gold account may be hacked or incorrect for a full day/night before the admin “catch” it.
Excerpt from GAP member news page:
Was about to complete all payouts of Aug. 26th (actually working on them) as some moron altered the egold account number in our payment interface - happened between 10:40pm and 11:00pm my time.
Please, take note of our egold number: 2703877 as it has been right from the beginning.
Guys, as much as I'd love to be able to just credit those whose payments were stolen, I just can't. I am as upset as those affected..what do we do peeps? what do we do? :((
August 24th payouts are now complete as well as August 25th
Please see FAQ question 1 for current processing times.
Please, be notified: Neither GAP's employees, nor myself, may be held responsible for your purchase errors, such as funds being stolen by hackers.
Please, again, take careful note of our egold account number for purchases as should appear during your spend: 2703877
Please, kindly notify us ASAP, should you notice any change to the payment interface.
Thank you for being diligent,
Sadly
Trish
admin @ GAP
PS: at the time of this posting the GAP growth is still impressive. I think it's still the best bet compared to other autosurf programs currently available. But, of course, it's a bet.
Saturday, August 19, 2006
Silver Gate Forex Hedging Invitation Code
Anyone who needs SGFH invitation code, mail me: xqwats at gmail.com.
You can also get more information about SGFH from here.
You can also get more information about SGFH from here.
SCAM WARNING: RALF-FINANCE resurrection is a Phishing Attempt!
I’ve got this email from the long gone Ralf Finance. Read it first then read my excerpt from TalkGold forum.
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Warning: IT’S A VERY CLEVER PHISHING ATTEMPT. Do not fall victim!
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Warning: IT’S A VERY CLEVER PHISHING ATTEMPT. Do not fall victim!
My nephew experienced it first person. Luckily, he is a careful and wary person and spotted the phishing attempt. I didn't believe it too, I wait and checked some forums right away after I received the email.
Excerpt from TalkGold forum (you may also check the MMG forum, search for "ralf").
Like we don't have enough scammers already!!
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Warning: IT’S A VERY CLEVER PHISHING ATTEMPT. Do not fall victim!
Important Anouncement!
From Ralf Finance Asset Management.
Dear Client.
This letter is to inform you that we are still offering our asset
management services. We value all of our clients, regardless of their sizes
of investment and would like to make our services even more secure and
reliable.
During the last month, we've been dealing with a lot of illegal and
unnapropriate actions against Ralf Finance. Ralf's servers have been
constantly under DDoS attacks, this caused serious expenses to improve
our DDoS protection.
We've managed to keep Ralf's servers online and have seriously improved
our DDoS protection and security features.
At this moment we are proud to inform you that no matter how big DDoS attack
is, we shall still manage to keep all systems online without downtimes.
Also our e-gold account had been locked due to unconfirmed fake court
order. More than 100,000 USD were frozen due to this abuse, sent by
anonymous person who claimed that he is an attourney from Philadelphia,
USA.
We had to spent over 30,000 USD on our lawyers and we had to spend
over 3 weeks of constant negotiation to prove that this order is fake and
to make E-gold LTD unlock our assets.
Recently our e-gold account has been finally unlocked
and we are glad to inform you that we have enabled AUTOMATIC WITHDRAWALS on all accounts.
Please feel free to log into your account and process an instant withdrawal
from your account.
As a gratuity for your patience we've added a bonus of $25 to your accounts balance
available to withdraw* or reinvest as compensation for all inconvenience caused.
*Certain restrictions apply.
Thank you for keeping faith in Ralf.
Sincerelly,
Ralf Finance Asset Management
http://ralf-finance.com
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Warning: IT’S A VERY CLEVER PHISHING ATTEMPT. Do not fall victim!
My nephew experienced it first person. Luckily, he is a careful and wary person and spotted the phishing attempt. I didn't believe it too, I wait and checked some forums right away after I received the email.
Excerpt from TalkGold forum (you may also check the MMG forum, search for "ralf").
Re: Ralf-Finance - Ralf-finance.com
Quote:
Originally Posted by snowsnow
Take it easy now ,ok .
l wanted to withdraw but the withdrawal error occured again - do l can them for manual withdrawal ?
No, read what I wrote. This is their last stab at money. The money is frozen. They are not going to pay, ever. They are now stealing it from our e-gold accounts! I fell for the oldest trick in the book. Now I have to figure out exactly how they did it. The e-gold site is a phishing site- complete with SRK keyboard. I input my password and they emptied my account. I don't know how they bypassed the different browser/IP controls from e-gold, but they did. I'm still too angry to talk...
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Default Re: Ralf-Finance - Ralf-finance.com
As above - do not use the automatic withdraw function on Ralf's website
I don't know what these wankers are up to now, but the link goes to:
http://www-e-qold.com/sci_asp/payments.asp which is a fake e-gold site and will result in your e-gold account being emptied.
Here's the WHOIS details for the domain. Does anyone want to give Patrick a call and ask him what is going on??
Domain Name : www-e-qold.com (WEQC2-BMN-DOM)
Registrar : BookMyName
Whois Server : whois.bookmyname.com
Referral URL : https://www.bookmyname.com
Registrant / Admin Contact :
PERSON
Patrick QUINN (QUINN2-BMN-PE)
175 Valparaiso St.
94133 San Francisco
UNITED STATES California
phone : 415-345-9566
fax :
e-mail : Patrick152623@yahoo.com
Billing Contact :
PERSON
Patrick QUINN (QUINN2-BMN-PE)
175 Valparaiso St.
94133 San Francisco
UNITED STATES California
phone : 415-345-9566
fax :
e-mail : Patrick152623@yahoo.com
Technical Contact :
PERSON
Patrick QUINN (QUINN2-BMN-PE)
175 Valparaiso St.
94133 San Francisco
UNITED STATES California
phone : 415-345-9566
fax :
e-mail : Patrick152623@yahoo.com
Domain servers :
ns1.zoneedit.com (ZONEED4-BMN-HST)
ns7.zoneedit.com (NZC2-BMN-HST)
Created on 08/18/2006 23:56:44
Updated on 08/19/2006 00:27:45
Expires on 08/18/2007 19:56:44
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Re: Ralf-Finance - Ralf-finance.com
Quote:
Originally Posted by HaleBopp
I understand how phishing works, but how did they get around the browser/IP detection e-gold has in place? Did they get into my e-mail account for the new pin too?
Of course they're using forwarding script (you put in your passphrase which will be automatically forward to "evil form" and the form will post it to login page of real E-Gold.
E-Gold though that this login really come from you with the right EG# and passphrase, after check the IP, E-Gold didn't recognize you, then E-Gold sent you the PIN.
If you put in your PIN (which will be recorded too by the form) and will be available for 15 minutes, the RF Hacker will empty your EG account.
How's that??? am I right?
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Re: Ralf-Finance - Ralf-finance.com
Quote:
Originally Posted by mhakim
Of course they're using forwarding script (you put in your passphrase which will be automatically forward to "evil form" and the form will post it to login page of real E-Gold.
E-Gold though that this login really come from you with the right EG# and passphrase, after check the IP, E-Gold didn't recognize you, then E-Gold sent you the PIN.
If you put in your PIN (which will be recorded too by the form) and will be available for 15 minutes, the RF Hacker will empty your EG account.
How's that??? am I right?
I don't think so, because I waited about 5-10 minutes before I thought to check my e-gold account, which then prompted me for a pin, and it was then that I saw the money was gone. F*****g scammers... like we don't have enough problems already with scammer admins and such.
Like we don't have enough scammers already!!
Comparing Two Current Hits, GAP and XLO the Finer Things

At the current time, two high interest programs that are really interested me are Trish’s autosurf GlobalAdsPro (GAP) and Andy’s hyip XLO The Finer Things (XLOTFT).
Currently GAP is got all the bells and whistles due to its relation to David Cannard’s 12by12daily and XLOTFT is quietly growing unnoticed from the general public, except from his almost cult-like followers, that is his current satisfied XLO investors. However, it will not for long because of the current publicity for XLOTFT from well-known bloggers such as Leo “Drunkonlife”. I read at his blog, Leo is in with 500 bucks, which is I considered pretty big to gamble with.
Why GAP and XLO are getting so much attention? The answer is because we all are so fed up with scammers that gone AWOL steal our money, so any programs whose admin is considered to be honest will get our full attention and we all will jump right on it.
Here I’ll just want to display the fact between this two extraordinary programs and so we can see the differences and similarities between this two. Hopefully will help us to create a sound diversification strategy.
Profit
GAP
Net profit for one cycle (7 days)
18% (=> 18% daily) x 7 (=> 7 days) x 0.94 (=> -6% admin fee) = 118.44% ROI
or 18.44% profit.
Daily net profit
18.44% / 7 = 2.63%
Monthly net profit
2.63% x 30 = 78.9% profit.
XLOTFT
Net profit for one cycle (30 days)
180% ROI
or 80% profit
Daily net profit
80% / 30 = 2.67%
Monthly net profit
80%
The Points:
For us:
- XLO gives a tad higher profit.
- No need to surf everyday (which is good). Fire and forget. Payment only to the account of our spend (no worries for hacker changing our egold account).
- More time to wait, can only exit the program after the contract mature in 30 days. If red flag appears, we can only pray and hope.
GAP, due to the 7 days cycle, makes it easier for us to control our investment. Meaning we can reevaluate the investment every 7 days (useful if red flags pop up).
It’s somehow can give us less risk if we investing max in 500/600 strategy (invest 500 in first day and 600 at fourth day). Although the probability of losing all 1100 is still higher than losing 500 or 600.
For admin:
XLO is easier to maintain because the contract for everyone expires once in 30 days. Because it’s not an autosurf, the admin can save bandwidth (if applicable), meaning less server maintenance fee.
The 30 days contract gives admin plenty of time to wait for new investments and manage his payments. HYIP, by nature, a bit calmer than autosurf because its investors don’t have to check the website everyday. Meaning it’s less sensitive to problem.
GAP on the other hand is administratively more difficult, with all the referrals and expired contracts thing. Money management is more difficult to handle due to shorter span of cycle. Not to mention the admin has to maintain her other programs too, that is coincidently all autosurf.
The nature of autosurf, meaning the members will check the internet and the website everyday, is more prone to bad news. Any less than expected news is more likely result in delayed upgrade from members.
Referral Commision
GAP
5%, for every upgrades
XLOTFT
3%, referral first spend only
The points:
For us:
Clearly GAP gives us more profit if we good at attracting referrals (unfortunately I’m no good at attracting referrals :/ :P)
For admin:
No discussion, XLOTFT is more favorable for admin in term of referral commission.
Min/Max Investment
GAP
Min 1 dollar.
Max 1100 at the same time (max 2 upgrades active in the same time)
Max investment for 1 month will be 1100 x 4.29 (=> 30 days divide by 7) = 4719.
XLOTFT
Min 25 dollars.
Max 2000 dollars per day
Max investment for 1 month will be 2000 x 30 = 60000.
The points:
For us:
XLOTFT gives more freedom for us to invest in whenever our impulsive investing muscle triggered.
For admin:
The XLOTFT potential of invested money growth is really big. Andy surely is shooting big in here. If it becomes an investing craze then the payment will be complicated (due to the big amount of money must be provided). Let’s hope it will not happen too fast and too soon.
GAP on the other hand is a lot more manageable.
Conclusion
Invest in both (I do).
I have an impression that Trish is more to the longer lifetime, judging from her carefully considered max investment cap. Her issue maybe is the administration difficulty.
Nevertheless, I guess Andy will not go anytime soon too.
As usual, if you find anything wrong (in my calculation or my writing), feel free to leave a comment and I'll fix it if I have to.
GlobalAdsPro
XLO The Finer Things
Wednesday, August 16, 2006
Arima - Still Not Paying. Simple Fund - Not Paying
Arima Investment is still not paying and still no news from the admin. I'll put it on the scam program if it's still not paying for a week. Of course no sane people will invest in it at the time being.
Simple Fund claim that they in the middle of optimization of the program.
Here is what they announce inside the member area:
According to HYIP News; Simple Fund, Worldwide Gold and Aurivelum are connected to each other. Right now only Aurivelum is still paying, but some problems have been reported already. So don’t count on it..:P
Simple Fund claim that they in the middle of optimization of the program.
Here is what they announce inside the member area:
According to the technical optimization of the program for daily payments all the members of SF will get the profit on the balance of their account.They activate the compounding to on, meaning no payment until the optimization of the program completed. Let's see, but my left brain said it's gone already..
The profit will be added on the e-gold account again after the end of the optimization.
According to HYIP News; Simple Fund, Worldwide Gold and Aurivelum are connected to each other. Right now only Aurivelum is still paying, but some problems have been reported already. So don’t count on it..:P
Tuesday, August 15, 2006
Vittorie – Closed. Members Account Transferred
Vittorie added and categorized as “Very Promising” HYIP at Only-Good-HYIPs.info. Added at Aug 8, 2006 and closed at Aug 11, 2006. Only 3 days! It must be set a record there.
HYWD.info, OnlyGoodHYIP partner(?), also put Vittorie in their “5 Quick HYIP Reviews” with profit chance of 60%.
After “closed” and said to be “sold” to YellowStones.net, all access to Vittorie website are just simply redirected to Yellowstones Investments web page.
Some investors have reported to have their account transferred but until this posting nobody has reported to be paid yet.
For my disappointment, Only-Good-HYIPs.info still put Vittorie as their Very Promising HYIP, whereas YellowStones Investment is nowhere in their list. To be frank, this lowers my level of trust to them.
I almost invested in Vittorie not only because of the good review from HYWD and OnlyGoodHYIP, but also because Vittorie website is very good (according to me) and their support is nice. They also gave different kinds of attractive bonuses. They seemed want to stay pretty long (at least 3 months, I can say). Luckily my question posted in a forum left unanswered, thus basically I was waiting for the answer, then the site disappeared. Saving me my punt money..:)
Moral of this story: no matter how attractive a program is, no matter how nice their website is, how friendly their support personnel are, any HYIP can just disappear in only a few days. No matter what. Just like that.
HYWD.info, OnlyGoodHYIP partner(?), also put Vittorie in their “5 Quick HYIP Reviews” with profit chance of 60%.
Vittoire
2%-3% daily, 15%-25% weekly
I like how this one looks. The contacts page is showing phone and fax numbers. They have a forum (based on free phpBB software), so far not very active. The domain is created on July 8th.
Profit chance: 60%
After “closed” and said to be “sold” to YellowStones.net, all access to Vittorie website are just simply redirected to Yellowstones Investments web page.
Some investors have reported to have their account transferred but until this posting nobody has reported to be paid yet.
For my disappointment, Only-Good-HYIPs.info still put Vittorie as their Very Promising HYIP, whereas YellowStones Investment is nowhere in their list. To be frank, this lowers my level of trust to them.
I almost invested in Vittorie not only because of the good review from HYWD and OnlyGoodHYIP, but also because Vittorie website is very good (according to me) and their support is nice. They also gave different kinds of attractive bonuses. They seemed want to stay pretty long (at least 3 months, I can say). Luckily my question posted in a forum left unanswered, thus basically I was waiting for the answer, then the site disappeared. Saving me my punt money..:)
Moral of this story: no matter how attractive a program is, no matter how nice their website is, how friendly their support personnel are, any HYIP can just disappear in only a few days. No matter what. Just like that.
Arima Investment - Payment Pending
I have two more-than-24-hours withdrawals pending. I've just sent a support email to them and still wating for the reply. People are complaining. For the most up-to-date forum thread about Arima Investment, take a look at TalkGold forum here.
MMG forum also has a thread for Arima Investment, but strangely enough, it's not too active lately. I've posted a message there. Let's see if my message can still be there intact (= nobody delete it on purpose).
HYWD.info has been removed Arima Investment from their approved list: "Too much problems with Arimainvest site, removed."
MMG forum also has a thread for Arima Investment, but strangely enough, it's not too active lately. I've posted a message there. Let's see if my message can still be there intact (= nobody delete it on purpose).
HYWD.info has been removed Arima Investment from their approved list: "Too much problems with Arimainvest site, removed."
Monday, August 14, 2006
One More Major Unpredictable Factor in HYIP Universe
Investing in HYIP and autosurf is not easy. Many factors before investing must be considered. I just found one more “wild card” factor that really bothered me.
Let me list the usual factors first, feel free to leave a comment if you know more factors.
1. Program category (HYIP? autosurf? matrix? MLM? doubler? cycler?)
2. Payment processors (e-gold? alertpay? etc.)
3. Admin track record history (experience or inexperience? honest or not?)
4. Script used (original golden coders? pirated golden coders? custom script?)
5. Real (registered) company or not?
6.Admin and company address (available? real? country? can it be verified?)
7. Age of the program compared to average age with programs of the same type (new? 1 week? 1 month? 2 month? 1 year? etc.) and same offering (1% daily? 2% daily? 12% daily in 12 day? 140% in 1 month? etc.)
8. How long to break even?
9. Line of business/investment (forex? arbitrage? sports betting? none? Oil? -> duh!)
10. Full or part ponzi?
11. Cash flow (estimated from alexa traffic reach),
12. Member growth. Checked from referral numbers from people looking for referral those appear every day in different forums -> not always applicable, some use username as referral id. Sometime some sites just give the information on their page.
13. Support and service.
14. Common red flags, such as chronic delay of payments, changing of TOS, “hackers” attack, site down, etc. Checked at forums.
The list keeps going.
And now add one more factor which is uncontrollable and unpredictable whatsoever:
Long story short, check here and continue here. You can go on from there.
That’s why “we can’t put all of our eggs in one basket”, “don’t invest more than you can afford to loose” and “treat this as gamble” really applied.
Nuff said!
Let me list the usual factors first, feel free to leave a comment if you know more factors.
1. Program category (HYIP? autosurf? matrix? MLM? doubler? cycler?)
2. Payment processors (e-gold? alertpay? etc.)
3. Admin track record history (experience or inexperience? honest or not?)
4. Script used (original golden coders? pirated golden coders? custom script?)
5. Real (registered) company or not?
6.Admin and company address (available? real? country? can it be verified?)
7. Age of the program compared to average age with programs of the same type (new? 1 week? 1 month? 2 month? 1 year? etc.) and same offering (1% daily? 2% daily? 12% daily in 12 day? 140% in 1 month? etc.)
8. How long to break even?
9. Line of business/investment (forex? arbitrage? sports betting? none? Oil? -> duh!)
10. Full or part ponzi?
11. Cash flow (estimated from alexa traffic reach),
12. Member growth. Checked from referral numbers from people looking for referral those appear every day in different forums -> not always applicable, some use username as referral id. Sometime some sites just give the information on their page.
13. Support and service.
14. Common red flags, such as chronic delay of payments, changing of TOS, “hackers” attack, site down, etc. Checked at forums.
The list keeps going.
And now add one more factor which is uncontrollable and unpredictable whatsoever:
a L A W Y E R involvement
Long story short, check here and continue here. You can go on from there.
That’s why “we can’t put all of our eggs in one basket”, “don’t invest more than you can afford to loose” and “treat this as gamble” really applied.
Nuff said!
Saturday, August 12, 2006
GAP - Why Paying Backwards?
Excerpt from Leo (Drunkonlife) website:
My guess why Trish is paying backward is because she wants to pay small upgrades first. Because of the recent hacker problem at her site, in which she reacted by placing a big red box announcement in the member area, I guess new members and any ordinary (not too bright nor too dumb) current members will put only small amount of money at around that time. So statistically low upgrades are distributed mostly to the back and big upgrades (before the hacking) are mostly distributed to the front. See the Alexa traffic for GlobalAdsPro at my previous posting.
The good cash flow apparently has been restored recently, and as a good and very experience admin she pays backwards thus encouraging more healthy cash flow for GlobalAdsPro.
Of course Trish is the only one who knows the real reason. This theory is only my humble opinion. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
I'm currently still pending my next upgrades too see where the trend will go. But there's possibility that when the trend is clear it could be to late for me to enter. I must admit I lost many opportunies in the past because of my over cautiousness (and lack of experiences). But that's my style, use yours.
GlobalAdsPro - The good news is that Trish is almost caught up. The bad news is that for those of us who are due from a few days back- we are going to have to wait probably a day or two longer. She is paying today's expired upgrades and working backwards. Not sure what the reasoning is here but whatever. There are reports of people getting paid from upgrades that expired yesterday. I am still not sweating this although I am one of the unfortunant ones. I will be re-upping my account once I am paid though. I still think that this one has life in it.
My guess why Trish is paying backward is because she wants to pay small upgrades first. Because of the recent hacker problem at her site, in which she reacted by placing a big red box announcement in the member area, I guess new members and any ordinary (not too bright nor too dumb) current members will put only small amount of money at around that time. So statistically low upgrades are distributed mostly to the back and big upgrades (before the hacking) are mostly distributed to the front. See the Alexa traffic for GlobalAdsPro at my previous posting.
The good cash flow apparently has been restored recently, and as a good and very experience admin she pays backwards thus encouraging more healthy cash flow for GlobalAdsPro.
Of course Trish is the only one who knows the real reason. This theory is only my humble opinion. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
I'm currently still pending my next upgrades too see where the trend will go. But there's possibility that when the trend is clear it could be to late for me to enter. I must admit I lost many opportunies in the past because of my over cautiousness (and lack of experiences). But that's my style, use yours.
Thursday, August 10, 2006
GlobalAdsPro.com Daily Reach by Alexa
GlobalAdsPro latest daily reach graph by Alexa.
Use this graph to see GAP growth. A Positive growth usually means the program is very likely to sustain. Be careful for a stagnant or a declining trend.
However, the graph can be wrong because of many reasons. DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT base your investment decision solely based on this graph. Please see my comment in this posting.
Hint: Refresh your browser for the latest update.
Use this graph to see GAP growth. A Positive growth usually means the program is very likely to sustain. Be careful for a stagnant or a declining trend.
However, the graph can be wrong because of many reasons. DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT base your investment decision solely based on this graph. Please see my comment in this posting.
Hint: Refresh your browser for the latest update.
Wednesday, August 09, 2006
Big Daddy Surf are Getting Hacked
Just when I decided to put some money on Big Daddy Surf then I read the following message at the site:
--BEGIN QUOTE
News
DO NOT UPGRADE WITH EGOLD!! /08 August 2006/
I have Disabled eGold! if it works , do NOT UPGRADE !!! We are Getting Hacked, and I will NOT HONOR any eGold Spends from this point on!!!!!
--END QUOTE
Too bad, it's getting more and more difficult to join a prospective autosurf program nowadays. I hope the problem could be solved a.s.a.p.
--BEGIN QUOTE
News
DO NOT UPGRADE WITH EGOLD!! /08 August 2006/
I have Disabled eGold! if it works , do NOT UPGRADE !!! We are Getting Hacked, and I will NOT HONOR any eGold Spends from this point on!!!!!
--END QUOTE
Too bad, it's getting more and more difficult to join a prospective autosurf program nowadays. I hope the problem could be solved a.s.a.p.
Tuesday, August 08, 2006
GAP - PAID My First Cashout
Just got my test spend from GAP.
Funny, the message at my e-gold memo is:
--BEGIN QUOTE
Memo: GAP cashout - 6% fee - hope you enjoy
--END QUOTE
Of course I enjoy it ..:) It is my money, and I was risking it.
Anyway, looking at the admin (Trish) track record, I believe this program will last pretty long. I'm looking forward for my next upgrade. Perhaps I'll tomorrow after all things settled up.
Funny, the message at my e-gold memo is:
--BEGIN QUOTE
Memo: GAP cashout - 6% fee - hope you enjoy
--END QUOTE
Of course I enjoy it ..:) It is my money, and I was risking it.
Anyway, looking at the admin (Trish) track record, I believe this program will last pretty long. I'm looking forward for my next upgrade. Perhaps I'll tomorrow after all things settled up.
T-Investment - SCAM!!
GAP - Catching Up
Latest news from GAP members area:
--BEGIN QUOTE
Hi dudes and dudettes,
Pedalling as fast as I can...getting closer to having Aug. 4th done and more of the later ones - why is there so many of ya??! LOL
Take good care
Trish
--END QUOTE
I read that many bloggers have been paid. And also some users.
I haven't got mine. It expired Aug 5th, 2006. Let's see where this program is heading. I still have faith.
--BEGIN QUOTE
Hi dudes and dudettes,
Pedalling as fast as I can...getting closer to having Aug. 4th done and more of the later ones - why is there so many of ya??! LOL
Take good care
Trish
--END QUOTE
I read that many bloggers have been paid. And also some users.
I haven't got mine. It expired Aug 5th, 2006. Let's see where this program is heading. I still have faith.
Monday, August 07, 2006
Forex Lessons for an Absolute Beginner
OOT: I've found a very good site about learning forex for (absolute) beginners. Name is "babypis.com - The beginner's guide to forex trading".
It's heavily illustrated and the language is plain English.
But because my brain is already rusted, I still find the Fibonacci topic, that talking about support and resistance, a bit heavy. Nevertheless it’s the best site about forex for a forex beginner to find in the internet at the time being. Take a visit..!
It's heavily illustrated and the language is plain English.
But because my brain is already rusted, I still find the Fibonacci topic, that talking about support and resistance, a bit heavy. Nevertheless it’s the best site about forex for a forex beginner to find in the internet at the time being. Take a visit..!
Thursday, August 03, 2006
Two Women Rage
Two prominent women in this industry have just snapped. I had planned to post my wild speculation on why they’re pretty upset, here, in my very blog. But I’ve changed my mind. I don’t want to add more heat in this already tense industry.
I can only say that perhaps (again this is a “perhaps”) Vincent Teoh has touch that two ladies at their most sensitive spot. For one is her privacy (whereabouts) and for the other one is her integrity. I cannot say whether what Vincent states is true or not, because although he is able to show some (looking) very legit facts, IMHO his research still has an open end, not completed. And unfortunately I don’t have the skill to check it by myself or money to hire a PI.
For you who is following the latest buzz in the autosurf universe may understand who’s and what’s I’m talking about. For you, who didn't get it, I can only say, “ignorance is bliss.”
So what’s the point you may ask? My point is even vaguer. Vincent may have opened a Pandora box that can bring this industry down and then evolve to an even more sophisticated one. Good for some, bad for some. Time will tell.
I can only say that perhaps (again this is a “perhaps”) Vincent Teoh has touch that two ladies at their most sensitive spot. For one is her privacy (whereabouts) and for the other one is her integrity. I cannot say whether what Vincent states is true or not, because although he is able to show some (looking) very legit facts, IMHO his research still has an open end, not completed. And unfortunately I don’t have the skill to check it by myself or money to hire a PI.
For you who is following the latest buzz in the autosurf universe may understand who’s and what’s I’m talking about. For you, who didn't get it, I can only say, “ignorance is bliss.”
So what’s the point you may ask? My point is even vaguer. Vincent may have opened a Pandora box that can bring this industry down and then evolve to an even more sophisticated one. Good for some, bad for some. Time will tell.
I'm in SurfBoard's Incoming Links
Oho..ho..ho... Surfboard has added my blog link to his Surfboard's Incoming Links. Thanks pal. But Surfboard mentions my blog name wrongly, it's "No Holds Barred" and not "No Holded Bar". I like the latter, though, it matches with my subtitle ;).
So.. starting now I think I must be much more careful with what I said in this blog. Don't want my wild speculations will bring any site down prematurely (like the current autosurf no 1 detective Vincent Teoh did so ;p ). Speaking about Vincent Teoh, I'll mention him in my next posting. "Two Women rage". Right after this.
So.. starting now I think I must be much more careful with what I said in this blog. Don't want my wild speculations will bring any site down prematurely (like the current autosurf no 1 detective Vincent Teoh did so ;p ). Speaking about Vincent Teoh, I'll mention him in my next posting. "Two Women rage". Right after this.
Latest News from GlobalAdsPro
For you who has joined or want to join GlobalAdsPro, here is the latest news from inside the GAP's member area (it's already posted in some forums):
--BEGIN QUOTE
A whole bunch of accounts using same IP have just been suspended - Congratulations!
Payouts will now take way longer as I will scrupulously audit each and every account, no exceptions.
Automatic upgrades will return to GAP in near future as our technician is working out a solution.
If you are a program owner, feel free to email me for some handy information.
URGENT!
We just had a member report hacker activity on GAP.
Further automatic upgrades are placed on hold immediately.
To upgrade, please, pay MANUALLY to account 270xxx7 and use the support form to send:
- member ID
- paid from egold account No. ....
- batch number ....
thank you for your cooperation.
--END QUOTE
What will be the effects?
These are the possibilities:
1. For users behind ISP proxies, there are possibilities that your account will be unfairly suspended.
If your account is happened to be suspended, please contact Trish immediately. If you don't receive any reply for a few days regarding this very important matter, than it is safe to fly the RED FLAG. Trish has sent an announcement before that she's really fed up with all unnecessary emails that filling her mailbox. I don't think that this was cleverly posted beforehand to give an excuse for her for not replying our email. Time will tell! I still believe in her because I can track her activities in the internet long before this GAP thing. And so far so good.
2. Due to “hacker” attack, account detail cannot be updated. Also upgrading must be done manually from e-gold (using e-gold spend page).
I hope there will be no “missing” upgrade payment. IMHO I don’t think this hacker issue will take more than a day or two to handle, if it’s really is a hacker attack (Trish mentions that the hacker attack suspicion is based on a member report). So I suggest waiting until the blockage has been lifted before doing any major upgrade.
Further news will be posted as comments in this posting. So stay tune!
--BEGIN QUOTE
A whole bunch of accounts using same IP have just been suspended - Congratulations!
Payouts will now take way longer as I will scrupulously audit each and every account, no exceptions.
Automatic upgrades will return to GAP in near future as our technician is working out a solution.
If you are a program owner, feel free to email me for some handy information.
URGENT!
We just had a member report hacker activity on GAP.
Further automatic upgrades are placed on hold immediately.
To upgrade, please, pay MANUALLY to account 270xxx7 and use the support form to send:
- member ID
- paid from egold account No. ....
- batch number ....
thank you for your cooperation.
--END QUOTE
What will be the effects?
These are the possibilities:
1. For users behind ISP proxies, there are possibilities that your account will be unfairly suspended.
If your account is happened to be suspended, please contact Trish immediately. If you don't receive any reply for a few days regarding this very important matter, than it is safe to fly the RED FLAG. Trish has sent an announcement before that she's really fed up with all unnecessary emails that filling her mailbox. I don't think that this was cleverly posted beforehand to give an excuse for her for not replying our email. Time will tell! I still believe in her because I can track her activities in the internet long before this GAP thing. And so far so good.
2. Due to “hacker” attack, account detail cannot be updated. Also upgrading must be done manually from e-gold (using e-gold spend page).
I hope there will be no “missing” upgrade payment. IMHO I don’t think this hacker issue will take more than a day or two to handle, if it’s really is a hacker attack (Trish mentions that the hacker attack suspicion is based on a member report). So I suggest waiting until the blockage has been lifted before doing any major upgrade.
Further news will be posted as comments in this posting. So stay tune!
The Loganberry - New Autosurf Blog
I've found a very good blog spot about autosurf. The blog name is The Loganberry. The blogger name is Mike. Still very new.
I excerpt one of the Mike's article here as a teaser. You may go to his blog here. Very worth reading.
What should I look for in an autosurf?
by Mike,
The Loganberry
Autosurfs come in many shapes and sizes. Most offer daily returns somewhere between 1 and 18%. Obviously the lower the daily return, the longer it takes to make your original spend back again. However, along with that lower return typically comes a higher degree of safety. The following is a list of what I feel are the 5 most impotant things to look at in considering what autosurf to join.
1) ROI.... Is it too high?
2) Length of each upgrade cycle....Is it too short?
3) Payout structure.... Is it daily, weekly, just at the end of the cycle, how many days does the payout "process" before getting paid?
4) Security.... Does it have DDOS protection? Is the script secure from hackers?
5) Admin....Most important of all. Is he or she honest and know what they are doing?
Of course everyone wants a high ROI. The trend is that people seem to want to make more and more in a shorter and shorter period of time. This trend seems to have put pressure on autosurf admins to meet that demand. As a result there are a lot of "hyped up" autosurfs that are very good at attracting a lot of members very quickly. The threads in various forums are bustling with activity. Everyone is talking about how "x" autosurf program is the best place to be. Unfortunately what is the most popular isn't always what is best for the individual autosurfer.
Many people have the misconception that if their money is tied up in a surf program longer then it is more at risk. They want something that will turn over in say 12 days and not 25 days or more, that way it is only tied up for 12 days and they can get it back out quicker before something goes wrong. Well, the reality is that the longer the cycle the safer the money actually is. I like to refer to most autosurf programs as no more than money shuffle games. Sure there is some outside source of funds but it is minimal and lets be honest, if new money stopped coming back in again the autosurf is going to die. So with that being said. If I put money in a program that only has a 9 day cycle with a 140% ROI and pays immediately after expiration, that gives the admin 9 days to get more funds in to help cover what he/she owes me back in the form of my original spend plus another 40%. Now if that cycle was a 45 day cycle with 140% ROI
then the admin has a full 45 days to bring in new funds to pay me back what is due to be paid out at expiration.
Many people don't like the idea of their money sitting as "pending" or "processing" for 5 to 7 days while they wait to get paid. It makes them nervous, wondering if the program is not paying because there is something wrong. Reality is that the longer the "processing" time after expiration, the safer the autosurf, because now they have that many more days to bring in new funds to keep existing expired upgrades paid out. Many autosurf admin make the mistake of paying within 48 hours of expiration with terms saying it could take up to 7 days. As the program grows and admin cannot keep up with the amount of payouts that need to be processed, the timeframe to get paid starts extending to 3, then 4 or more days. People who are used to a 48 hour turnaround take this as a sign that something is wrong and start yelling "scam", or other things that kill a perfectly healthy program.
The admin walks a delicate line of wanting to provide what will attract new members to his/her site (high ROI, quick payout, short cycles)but at the same time keeping it structured in a way where it can actually have some longevity and keep paying for an extended period of time. It seems like kind of a catch 22, if the program is too hyped up with everything people want, a lot of people join quickly but the program is short lived, if the program is boring with a conservative ROI, longer cycle, 7 day wait to get paid, then the program is structured to pay for a very long time with only 1 problem, it needs members who want to join given the more conservative nature of the program.
So with that being said. Is there an ideal autosurf out there right now? I know which ones I like.
I excerpt one of the Mike's article here as a teaser. You may go to his blog here. Very worth reading.
What should I look for in an autosurf?
by Mike,
The Loganberry
Autosurfs come in many shapes and sizes. Most offer daily returns somewhere between 1 and 18%. Obviously the lower the daily return, the longer it takes to make your original spend back again. However, along with that lower return typically comes a higher degree of safety. The following is a list of what I feel are the 5 most impotant things to look at in considering what autosurf to join.
1) ROI.... Is it too high?
2) Length of each upgrade cycle....Is it too short?
3) Payout structure.... Is it daily, weekly, just at the end of the cycle, how many days does the payout "process" before getting paid?
4) Security.... Does it have DDOS protection? Is the script secure from hackers?
5) Admin....Most important of all. Is he or she honest and know what they are doing?
Of course everyone wants a high ROI. The trend is that people seem to want to make more and more in a shorter and shorter period of time. This trend seems to have put pressure on autosurf admins to meet that demand. As a result there are a lot of "hyped up" autosurfs that are very good at attracting a lot of members very quickly. The threads in various forums are bustling with activity. Everyone is talking about how "x" autosurf program is the best place to be. Unfortunately what is the most popular isn't always what is best for the individual autosurfer.
Many people have the misconception that if their money is tied up in a surf program longer then it is more at risk. They want something that will turn over in say 12 days and not 25 days or more, that way it is only tied up for 12 days and they can get it back out quicker before something goes wrong. Well, the reality is that the longer the cycle the safer the money actually is. I like to refer to most autosurf programs as no more than money shuffle games. Sure there is some outside source of funds but it is minimal and lets be honest, if new money stopped coming back in again the autosurf is going to die. So with that being said. If I put money in a program that only has a 9 day cycle with a 140% ROI and pays immediately after expiration, that gives the admin 9 days to get more funds in to help cover what he/she owes me back in the form of my original spend plus another 40%. Now if that cycle was a 45 day cycle with 140% ROI
then the admin has a full 45 days to bring in new funds to pay me back what is due to be paid out at expiration.
Many people don't like the idea of their money sitting as "pending" or "processing" for 5 to 7 days while they wait to get paid. It makes them nervous, wondering if the program is not paying because there is something wrong. Reality is that the longer the "processing" time after expiration, the safer the autosurf, because now they have that many more days to bring in new funds to keep existing expired upgrades paid out. Many autosurf admin make the mistake of paying within 48 hours of expiration with terms saying it could take up to 7 days. As the program grows and admin cannot keep up with the amount of payouts that need to be processed, the timeframe to get paid starts extending to 3, then 4 or more days. People who are used to a 48 hour turnaround take this as a sign that something is wrong and start yelling "scam", or other things that kill a perfectly healthy program.
The admin walks a delicate line of wanting to provide what will attract new members to his/her site (high ROI, quick payout, short cycles)but at the same time keeping it structured in a way where it can actually have some longevity and keep paying for an extended period of time. It seems like kind of a catch 22, if the program is too hyped up with everything people want, a lot of people join quickly but the program is short lived, if the program is boring with a conservative ROI, longer cycle, 7 day wait to get paid, then the program is structured to pay for a very long time with only 1 problem, it needs members who want to join given the more conservative nature of the program.
So with that being said. Is there an ideal autosurf out there right now? I know which ones I like.
XLO Cycler - Game's Over?
I guess the game is over for XLO cycler. To be honest, I gain pretty much in this game. Three figures. Not bad for a three days adventure. Too bad I was not aggressive enough at that time, therefore missed the opportunity to gain much more (up to 10K). For you who loose; better luck next time and try to control your greed (I admit that applies to me too :) )
Again, you can gain a lot of money in this business, and you can also loose much. But the opportunity is real, tangible and available. Remember, like the Matrix Revolutions movie tagline, "Everything that has a beginning has an end". HYIP, it's about knowledge, control and timing. Nothing else.
Here is the email I got from Andy the administrator, looks like a farewell letter to me:
Hey there.
As you are all aware the cycler has slowed down to a stop. Over the last day I have received a number of emails asking why - the answer was and is that it stopped because a number of members decided not to respend. The way for the cycler to stay moving is for constant ongoing support. Deciding there are too many in the queue and not respending will kill it. Deciding to play with "profit only" will kill it (basically this means dropping your respend amount down). Or just simply not respending.
It is not up to the admin to "kick start" the cycler, it is up to the members to decide collectively that they want it to continue. If thats what you want then the best way would be to get together with your downlines/uplines/friends etc and make some committments. Words don't move the cycler - money does.
With all of that said - yes the cycle time WILL increase - it is the nature of the beast. However, if there is growth (and there was over the last day the cycler was moving) then there is long term potential. Long term does not equal one payout - it means a longer term once a day or once every two days or once a week or even once a month payment.
This CAN happen, but it will not happen with everyone sitting around looking for someone else to make it work.
XLO is committed to keeping the cycler open and in sight for everyone - no missed payouts and as you know - the payouts do go out 24/7.
The ball of gold is firmly in your court. Those of you that have made some - you may wish to look at making some more.
Bear this in mind, I am not writing to ask or beg anyone to respend. The guidelines for the cycler were very clearly laid out at the start. It just does seem a shame to me that when a program such as this (which is basically an unstripped hyip) does get presented, the immediate reaction is to hit and run run run... whereas if it is cloaked in the mystique of "offshore forex inverted ananysis trading" everyone would be climbing over themselves and would have not stopped the support.
Comments are welcome - as always. A group (or majority) consensus is what is needed to make the cycler move in a meaningful way again (and with the real support the cycle time could easily drop to sub 24 hrs time very quickly)
Finally - I know the answer "I am waiting to cycle until I respend" is a very real and valid one - once more I am not asking for support beyond your comfort zone:)
Andy
Again, you can gain a lot of money in this business, and you can also loose much. But the opportunity is real, tangible and available. Remember, like the Matrix Revolutions movie tagline, "Everything that has a beginning has an end". HYIP, it's about knowledge, control and timing. Nothing else.
Here is the email I got from Andy the administrator, looks like a farewell letter to me:
Hey there.
As you are all aware the cycler has slowed down to a stop. Over the last day I have received a number of emails asking why - the answer was and is that it stopped because a number of members decided not to respend. The way for the cycler to stay moving is for constant ongoing support. Deciding there are too many in the queue and not respending will kill it. Deciding to play with "profit only" will kill it (basically this means dropping your respend amount down). Or just simply not respending.
It is not up to the admin to "kick start" the cycler, it is up to the members to decide collectively that they want it to continue. If thats what you want then the best way would be to get together with your downlines/uplines/friends etc and make some committments. Words don't move the cycler - money does.
With all of that said - yes the cycle time WILL increase - it is the nature of the beast. However, if there is growth (and there was over the last day the cycler was moving) then there is long term potential. Long term does not equal one payout - it means a longer term once a day or once every two days or once a week or even once a month payment.
This CAN happen, but it will not happen with everyone sitting around looking for someone else to make it work.
XLO is committed to keeping the cycler open and in sight for everyone - no missed payouts and as you know - the payouts do go out 24/7.
The ball of gold is firmly in your court. Those of you that have made some - you may wish to look at making some more.
Bear this in mind, I am not writing to ask or beg anyone to respend. The guidelines for the cycler were very clearly laid out at the start. It just does seem a shame to me that when a program such as this (which is basically an unstripped hyip) does get presented, the immediate reaction is to hit and run run run... whereas if it is cloaked in the mystique of "offshore forex inverted ananysis trading" everyone would be climbing over themselves and would have not stopped the support.
Comments are welcome - as always. A group (or majority) consensus is what is needed to make the cycler move in a meaningful way again (and with the real support the cycle time could easily drop to sub 24 hrs time very quickly)
Finally - I know the answer "I am waiting to cycle until I respend" is a very real and valid one - once more I am not asking for support beyond your comfort zone:)
Andy
Wednesday, August 02, 2006
T-Investment - RED FLAG
Apparently T-Investment has some problems. It's been happening since 2 weeks ago. Starting with 2 wrong double payments, followed by several server access problems.It's still paying until July 28th, 2006 (last Friday). But starting this week the payments are pending. You may read people are shouting at MoneyMakerGroup here. and at TalkGlod here.
I guess they have some difficulty in cash flow. No wonder, it's been a slow month and they charge 10% fee for deposit, no weekend interest, 40% principal withdrawal fee and slow payment. If they want to survive and don't want to be criminals then they have to change the rule. T-Investment so far has got a pretty good name. I hope it will not just go down shamelessly and give this industry another bad name.
I found a new site named "StF"; it has better rule and TOS. It has all better improvement of T-Investment (auto withdrawal, 7% principal and, unfortunately, interest withdrawal fee, no deposit charge, weekend interest). But somehow I feel it has many similarities with T-Investment. At least design wise. Probably just my perception. Someone can speculate that T-Investment owner has been move to another program and ready to close his old program. Of course it’s highly speculative with no base of fact. But I believe I can give T-Investment a RED FLAG. Do not join until they can give us a better service. This, indeed, I doubt it very much.
Tuesday, August 01, 2006
New Matrix Craze: BigDaddy Matrix - Just Launch!
BigDaddy has started a matrix. It’s a 4×8 Forced Matrix with spill-over. The member at the time of this posting are only 26 (I'm the 26th).
I'm a direct downline of a very popular blogger, Leo "Drunnkonlife" (http://user209591.websitewizard.com/home). Leo's direct upline is also a very popular bloggers, Surfboard (http://www.surfadsinc.com/blog).
So my family line is like this: Surfboard -> Drunkonlife -> Me!
I believe you can get some extra money in this new program if you join asap.
It's a peanut, only 9.5 dollars and you may easily get hundreds. Join now! If you so choose..
I'm a direct downline of a very popular blogger, Leo "Drunnkonlife" (http://user209591.websitewizard.com/home). Leo's direct upline is also a very popular bloggers, Surfboard (http://www.surfadsinc.com/blog).
So my family line is like this: Surfboard -> Drunkonlife -> Me!
I believe you can get some extra money in this new program if you join asap.
It's a peanut, only 9.5 dollars and you may easily get hundreds. Join now! If you so choose..
